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by HyperHenry

person hyperhenry
schedule May 31, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Dear all

Let's get something straight: it is nobody's fault that I chose to discontinue the story. In fact, I launched chapter 3 (in which I announce the discontinuation) long before anyone started discussing the validity of C3. Had I chosen to continue the story, I would have stuck to the C3 for the sake of the story and then duly note it for another story.
Anyway, just to quell speculations as to why I stopped: I am scant of time! I work as a secretary, translator, painter and illustrator, and since the circadian cycle only entails 24 hrs, I simply ran out of free time. :(
I enjoy visiting this site occasionally, though, and when things calm down a bit, I might engage in another story. But until then, I would really and truly love for someone else to continue "The High C". :)

Smooches
Hyper
person SanguineChalice
schedule May 30, 2005 at 12:00 AM
If you want to continue, I can help you with the music terminology. One of the common errors online involves the coloratura. Depending on which site you get, some will say that it is one's range. That is not true. The range for sopranos are almost always the same.
There are, however, different types. Lyric (which is the clear, bell-like aerial sound), Spinto (which is literally between lyric and dramatic, not too sweet and not to rough) and Dramatic (which is the heavy sound - think of the blond German's with the funky hats!)
Now there comes the Coloratura. Coloratura is basically this: the Coloring of the voice. Adding trills and extra runs, basically Coloratura is nothing more than 'decoraction of the voice'. That is why you see both Dramatic Coloraturas and Lyric Coloraturs. The reason most people think Coloratura is high, is because sopranos sing Coloratura. It is easier for people with a head range to do the 'decorations' to the voice because of where they sing from. That is why you rarely (to never) see Mezzo Coloraturas.
A contralto? I am naturally a Mezzo, but with years of practice have been able to extend my range immensely. I can go from E below middle C all the way up to two octaves above middle C (or C3). I would love to be able to do a full three octaves, but I almost lost my voice over it and vowed never to do it again (a piece of advice I always give singers).
Another thing, is be careful how you write the scales. I had one girl tell me once that she could sing seven octaves on top of each other. I asked her if she meant like middle C to high C, middle D to high D, middle E to high E (and so forth) or if she meant C to C to C. She said C to C to C.
Do you see an error with this? If that were the case, she would be seeing nearly the Entire keyboard, which is not humanly possible! Either she didn't understand my question, or she was lying. I would like to think that she didn't understand my question, because anyone who has studied music alot would think she is a nut!
I am sorry if you think I am getting on to you or something, because I am not. I just love music and I love teaching (I am not a certified music instructor yet, but that is what I want to do!) I help some of the women in my church and my mother and sister with the piano, and I really want to get a degree in music so I can teach voice.
I just wanted you to know that it is kind of a habit and I wasn't like... trying to attack you or something.
I am sorry that you have decided not to continue the story. If it was because of me, I am ever sorrier (I don't think that is actually a word, though is it?) :-)
I would really love to see you continue it, and if you needed help, I would be glad to give it. I would love to do the story, but I am so busy right now with school and with three other stories. But if you, or anyone else, decides to continue the story, I will gladly help in anyway I can.
person hyperhenry
schedule May 30, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Hi, all

Yeppers, it's me - the author. In the past weeks there has been a debate about the technical details behind the high C (I mean the tone - not the story). I must say, I find the discussion highly interesting. Though I was singing in a choir when I was young (sigh - that is a long time ago, I kid you not), I am NOT an expert, so I was bound to get some feedback on the specs of the story. Please continue! Are there others out there who have experience or knowledge of the High C? Has anyone actually been able to break anything (save ear drums)? Surfing the Internet, I am forced to conclude, is not applicable. I came up with conflicting facts, so I guess I must rely on first hand experience. Blood on your hands? Gasp! Of course, there is absolutely no way I can experiment myself. I'm a contralto, so that wouldn't do me much good. Our choirmaster almost used me a barytone in Palestrina's works. ;)
Anyway, I'd love to hear more. And I'd love for some of you to continue the story. Please? :))))
schedule May 29, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I can tell you right now that the high C doesn't break glass. I have been singing since I was three and since I began taking classical voice lessons about four years ago, my range has improved immensely. Since then I have been able to reach the high C, which is what they use in the movie. I am also pleased to say that I have been able to hit E3, which is the note that Sarah Brightman hits in the original musical. NOTE: I said 'have been'. Unfortunately that note is not supposed to be sung by normal voices, and in reality should not be sung at all, which I think is why they did not do it in the movie.
I attempted it once and hit it perfectly... Unfortunately, after holding it for about 5 seconds, I started coughing. When I looked down at my hand it was spattered with blood!
In REAL opera you Rarely going above the high A, but occassionally you will hit the C. Never, ever have I seen that highest E in anything but POTO. If one is not careful, that note can ruin one's voice!
person Provocateur
schedule May 26, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Wow, this is very, very hot!

The S&M undertones are rather subdued, but I prefer stories like that. Once writers start inserting too many floggings and black leather I begin to lose interest, but you have mananged to keep the dominant/submissive aspect intact without taking it too far.

I really don't know anything about the technicalities of singing, but your idea is original, thoughtful, and quite creative.

You need not worry about having English not be your native tongue, you have a wonderful grasp on the languange and your diction is great.

Great work!
person Kitty
schedule May 25, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I don't know what to say about the source you looked at, but I do know now that the high C is indeed the C7. I looked back into my old music books and a few of my new ones and they all confirmed it. Plus if you were to play a C3 on a piano, you would see that it in no way is capable of breaking glass, whereas a C7 is. I am not trying to be snooty to conceited, I am just passing on what I know.
person Jula
schedule May 25, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Well, I know nothing of singing... but that was one very hot, and oddly cute, story. Oh please continue!

person Kitty
schedule May 24, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I liked the story, however you made a little mistake. You see, I am a music student; I have been studying music for a long time and am currently majoring in it in college. C3 is not a high C. The C you were probably referring to is either a C6 or C7. You see, as the numbers go up, the sound gets higher. The highest C is a C8, so a C3 would not even come close to breaking glass. Plus, since Christine is a soprano, like I am, a C3 would not be hard for her to hit. I do hope you don't take this review the wrong way. I loved the story, I like to see Erik get the girl, its just that I wanted to correct the little mistake.
person Mousey
schedule May 24, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Oh, what a wonderful continuation! I'm not sure which chapter was my favorite, so I'll just verbally oogle both of them. ^_^ I love how innocent and naive your Christine is; it's almost to the point where it's out of character, but it comes off as quite endearing *because* it's Christine. I like your incorporation of French because I'm a French nut XD And your development of Erik is also very unique! In short, I cannot wait to see more. <3
person angelgirl
schedule May 24, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Me like. Funny that Christine's C3 caused Erik's mask to break but not the glass. Loved it!
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