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December 29, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I'm sad that I didn't read this as soon as it was updated, but I still read it! You are AMAZING, the emotions you give me while I read your work has never risen in me before, as I read my heart races and my breathing becomes loud, it's just simply AWESOME, and so was the chapter, it was the BEST chapter yet! I don't expect you to update soon but I do hope you do, this story has easily become my favorite over all, even the ones that aren't CATCF!
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December 29, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Mmm, make-up sex is wonderful indeed. I know blow-jobs make my boyfriend forget whatever he was upset about. :)
Weee, you used my lines! I'm honored. Yeah, writing all that down actually benifited me too, because before that I'd never bothered to disect the difference between "harm" and "hurt," and the "harm none" law had puzzled me for a while. I mean, there are situations in which violence only breeds more violence, therefore achiveing nothing, but there are times when a well placed slap might make someone think twice before opening their mouths. It hurts, but doesn't harm them, like if I broke their jaw or plotted to ruin their life in revenge. Look at it as a learning experience.
My dad once told me a story from when he was a kid about how he was getting picked on by this one bully for months. Finally, one day my dad snapped and beat the living crap out of the jerk. That kid never beat up anyone again. So who's to say, really, that hurting someone is wrong or right? Two wrongs don't make a right, but it sure as hell gets results.
In physics, every action has an equal and oposite reaction. Actions on the physical plane effect the phsyical plane, mental actions the mental plane, and spiritual actions the astral plane, thus the threefold law affecting the body, mind, and spirit. Beating up someone is physical backlash. Magical action involving mental energy (forming the idea), astal energy (working the magic), and finally physical energy (the result) affects all three.
Basically, it's not so much if what your doing is morally right or wrong, it's just that bad things generally have bad results and good things usually good results. If you kill someone, you go to jail. If you help someone in a time of need, they'll help you when you need it. The system isn't perfect though; you might get away with murder, and your friend my turn out to be a jerk, but more often that not that doesn't happen. That's just nature, not God punishing or rewarding us. It's just the way the universe/cosmic order of things works. Ta da, karma!
People realized this a long time ago and tried to reason why things are the way they are, thus the birth of religion. God decides what happens and why, and it may not make sense to us, but does to him. People have forgotten the original reason for why they created the idea of God, and so religion has lost a lot of meaning past the whole "be good and go to heaven, be bad and go to hell" thing. Does it really take threats to make people be good anymore? For some, yes. It's sad when that's all the reasoning there is behind someone's actions. "Thou shalt not" is a lame excuse for letting an idea that holds no real meaning to you beyond fear of hell and greed for heaven dictate your life. Religion should make you a better, stronger person, not a clone.
Older spiritual ideas seem to hold truer to human kind's basic needs. Sex in paganism is worshiped as something beautiful and sacred, that which makes life; not a sin. To kill is against the law of God, but okay when in his name, not because that person wronged you (which would be karma/cosmic order), but because they believed something different.
Huh?
When did we lose track of what is really going one? Suddenly modern religion sounds more like "magic" that the religions that practiced it! An all knowing, perfect God who sees all, and will reward and punish those he deems fit? Wasn't "God" just a face we gave to that cosmic order of things called physics? When did he become a guy litterally living in the clouds? That used to be a metaphor! True, pagans took ideas like that litterally for years, but now humans are advanced enough to understand that there arn't actually hundreds of gods and goddesses sitting around watching us. Giving a face and a name to something that controled every aspect of our lives from birth to death made it seem human and easy to understand. Try to imagine explaining to a paleolithic homo-sapian that the sun wasn't god, but inseatd a burning ball of gas millions of miles away. We're smart enough now to undstand more of how things really work. Suddenly "modern religion" sounds terribly outdated.
It's seems hypocritical that Wicca, based off of the oldest spiritual teaching on the earth, is now more modern than the youngest, Christianity. But Wicca has the advantage of the new understanding of physics/cosmic order that we didn't have 2000 years ago. Pagans have updated their beleifs; why haven't Christians? Sure, a lot have, but the majority is, if you'll excuse the phrase, well behind the times.
Right and wrong should no longer be the issue peope are most concerned with. It should be "why," and if we can't answer why something is good or bad, then what's the point at all? Right and wrong are empty words without resoning behind them.
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Umm, wow. That really trailed off there. Uh, in conclusion, I guess, everything is a subject of circumstance...I think. Did this make any sense at all???
Weee, you used my lines! I'm honored. Yeah, writing all that down actually benifited me too, because before that I'd never bothered to disect the difference between "harm" and "hurt," and the "harm none" law had puzzled me for a while. I mean, there are situations in which violence only breeds more violence, therefore achiveing nothing, but there are times when a well placed slap might make someone think twice before opening their mouths. It hurts, but doesn't harm them, like if I broke their jaw or plotted to ruin their life in revenge. Look at it as a learning experience.
My dad once told me a story from when he was a kid about how he was getting picked on by this one bully for months. Finally, one day my dad snapped and beat the living crap out of the jerk. That kid never beat up anyone again. So who's to say, really, that hurting someone is wrong or right? Two wrongs don't make a right, but it sure as hell gets results.
In physics, every action has an equal and oposite reaction. Actions on the physical plane effect the phsyical plane, mental actions the mental plane, and spiritual actions the astral plane, thus the threefold law affecting the body, mind, and spirit. Beating up someone is physical backlash. Magical action involving mental energy (forming the idea), astal energy (working the magic), and finally physical energy (the result) affects all three.
Basically, it's not so much if what your doing is morally right or wrong, it's just that bad things generally have bad results and good things usually good results. If you kill someone, you go to jail. If you help someone in a time of need, they'll help you when you need it. The system isn't perfect though; you might get away with murder, and your friend my turn out to be a jerk, but more often that not that doesn't happen. That's just nature, not God punishing or rewarding us. It's just the way the universe/cosmic order of things works. Ta da, karma!
People realized this a long time ago and tried to reason why things are the way they are, thus the birth of religion. God decides what happens and why, and it may not make sense to us, but does to him. People have forgotten the original reason for why they created the idea of God, and so religion has lost a lot of meaning past the whole "be good and go to heaven, be bad and go to hell" thing. Does it really take threats to make people be good anymore? For some, yes. It's sad when that's all the reasoning there is behind someone's actions. "Thou shalt not" is a lame excuse for letting an idea that holds no real meaning to you beyond fear of hell and greed for heaven dictate your life. Religion should make you a better, stronger person, not a clone.
Older spiritual ideas seem to hold truer to human kind's basic needs. Sex in paganism is worshiped as something beautiful and sacred, that which makes life; not a sin. To kill is against the law of God, but okay when in his name, not because that person wronged you (which would be karma/cosmic order), but because they believed something different.
Huh?
When did we lose track of what is really going one? Suddenly modern religion sounds more like "magic" that the religions that practiced it! An all knowing, perfect God who sees all, and will reward and punish those he deems fit? Wasn't "God" just a face we gave to that cosmic order of things called physics? When did he become a guy litterally living in the clouds? That used to be a metaphor! True, pagans took ideas like that litterally for years, but now humans are advanced enough to understand that there arn't actually hundreds of gods and goddesses sitting around watching us. Giving a face and a name to something that controled every aspect of our lives from birth to death made it seem human and easy to understand. Try to imagine explaining to a paleolithic homo-sapian that the sun wasn't god, but inseatd a burning ball of gas millions of miles away. We're smart enough now to undstand more of how things really work. Suddenly "modern religion" sounds terribly outdated.
It's seems hypocritical that Wicca, based off of the oldest spiritual teaching on the earth, is now more modern than the youngest, Christianity. But Wicca has the advantage of the new understanding of physics/cosmic order that we didn't have 2000 years ago. Pagans have updated their beleifs; why haven't Christians? Sure, a lot have, but the majority is, if you'll excuse the phrase, well behind the times.
Right and wrong should no longer be the issue peope are most concerned with. It should be "why," and if we can't answer why something is good or bad, then what's the point at all? Right and wrong are empty words without resoning behind them.
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Umm, wow. That really trailed off there. Uh, in conclusion, I guess, everything is a subject of circumstance...I think. Did this make any sense at all???
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December 29, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I tried to email you this but it wouldn't let me, so I guess I'm just going to have to post it here. I hope I'm not going to seem like an obsessed fan or anything, but I thought since you worked so much considering the fact you wrote that long story in such a short amount of time, that you should recieve something a little more than a few reviews from me. So I decided to draw for you my favorite scene from your latest chapter. It's a quick sketch cause it's late and I'm tired and hungry. I hope I got the details right, how Charlie's turtle neck was cut and hung low, and how Wonka's only gloved hand left was his right one, and you said that Charlie was sucking on 'gloved' fingers and I knew the left hand's glove was taken off. Well I hope you like it, it can be found at:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Hatii/ForIdol.jpg
From your best fan,
-Hatii
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/Hatii/ForIdol.jpg
From your best fan,
-Hatii
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December 28, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Yay! mention xxx love this chapter, like the reference to charlies family and the number of deaths, that was intereasting. I hope there is some reaction as to what happened to Charlie if they get a whiff of somthing susicious. Also i wanna know if Willie changes before seeing the family again of if he is going to send them balistic with the state of his clothing. Finally is Wonka going to pick some family members off if they keep pestering him? Anyway, i'm in love with this and i can't wait for the next chapter! Hugs for you! xxxx
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December 28, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Ah, “But who are you to play God?” - some would argue. Why, he was Willy Wonka of course!
"WOW~". Hahaha. Ah, those lines amused me immensely. Like I mentioned before, I knew there was a reason for my unexplained wakening at such an ungodly hour on a holiday, but it was well worth it. In fact, just last night before bed I was thinking how fun it would be to read some more, if only the 12th installment were out. Hm~!
The chapters just seem to be getting better and better, and you have given so much more depth to these characters that one can't help but wonder if some of it was secretly there all along, hidden behind their original creator's mind. I find myself rereading the book for the -millionth- time, looking a bit deeper than I would have reading it as a child.
You truly have a talent for bringing even more substance to that which has already been analyzed and interpreted by others, and it is somewhat chilling to me to think of just how much more impact an original story of yours would be. I am relatively new to your writings (a few days, in fact - I read the first eleven chapters in one marathon late night -_-;), but I can very safely say I'd be the first to storm a bookstore to read any of your published works.
Never stop doing what you are doing ~ your talent is undeniable.
<3
~Yamscarf/kami-sama/Mana/whateverelseIgoby
"WOW~". Hahaha. Ah, those lines amused me immensely. Like I mentioned before, I knew there was a reason for my unexplained wakening at such an ungodly hour on a holiday, but it was well worth it. In fact, just last night before bed I was thinking how fun it would be to read some more, if only the 12th installment were out. Hm~!
The chapters just seem to be getting better and better, and you have given so much more depth to these characters that one can't help but wonder if some of it was secretly there all along, hidden behind their original creator's mind. I find myself rereading the book for the -millionth- time, looking a bit deeper than I would have reading it as a child.
You truly have a talent for bringing even more substance to that which has already been analyzed and interpreted by others, and it is somewhat chilling to me to think of just how much more impact an original story of yours would be. I am relatively new to your writings (a few days, in fact - I read the first eleven chapters in one marathon late night -_-;), but I can very safely say I'd be the first to storm a bookstore to read any of your published works.
Never stop doing what you are doing ~ your talent is undeniable.
<3
~Yamscarf/kami-sama/Mana/whateverelseIgoby
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December 28, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Bah! Even I can't keep track of my own names sometimes. I was also the Kami who wrote above~ XD
And you are quite welcome! <3
And you are quite welcome! <3
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December 28, 2005 at 12:00 AM
*Squeals loudly* YOU UPDATED!!!!!!
*BOUNCES UP AND DOWN IN COMPUTER CHAIR*
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!! i LOVE THIS STORY, IT'S THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST!!!!!
Why do I feel like I've eaten about....10 of the wonka bars....oh well....sugar buzz...
*happy dance* I'm so happy I checked back with this story and.....and there's an UPDATE!!!!
*falls over onto floor and twitches*
can't wait for more...
Liz
*BOUNCES UP AND DOWN IN COMPUTER CHAIR*
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!! i LOVE THIS STORY, IT'S THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST!!!!!
Why do I feel like I've eaten about....10 of the wonka bars....oh well....sugar buzz...
*happy dance* I'm so happy I checked back with this story and.....and there's an UPDATE!!!!
*falls over onto floor and twitches*
can't wait for more...
Liz
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December 28, 2005 at 12:00 AM
I FINALLY read this. Idolhands, this is way overdue, and I'm sorry but I haven't been hanging around the wonkaslash board lately. This peice of work is astonding. I was GLUED to the computer for three hours reading this entire thing. I was even telling a friend of mine how intense it was. Very very good, bravo.
I hope you write more. I really do. It seems that this whole thing is just developing (if you can believe it) and that there needs to be more said. Now I want to run off and draw fanart for this story. I got the portrait picture clearly in my head, and the description about how you have to go up to "The Forbidden Room" made even me a bit naucious. I might even draw Charlie with a unicorn now. And all the Winnie the Pooh references were the best. I found myself singing the Tigger song while reading it. XD Brings back very fond childhood memories.
I also loved how you tied in history with this. and the religion. Very nice.
As I said before, please continue. It's too good to stop here, and I will start reviewing on the wonkaslash board.
Fond wishes and happy holidays,
Firelady113; co-moderator of wonkaslash LJ community
I hope you write more. I really do. It seems that this whole thing is just developing (if you can believe it) and that there needs to be more said. Now I want to run off and draw fanart for this story. I got the portrait picture clearly in my head, and the description about how you have to go up to "The Forbidden Room" made even me a bit naucious. I might even draw Charlie with a unicorn now. And all the Winnie the Pooh references were the best. I found myself singing the Tigger song while reading it. XD Brings back very fond childhood memories.
I also loved how you tied in history with this. and the religion. Very nice.
As I said before, please continue. It's too good to stop here, and I will start reviewing on the wonkaslash board.
Fond wishes and happy holidays,
Firelady113; co-moderator of wonkaslash LJ community
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December 26, 2005 at 12:00 AM
Oh man! D= I read like nonstop
And then I hit the end!
And then I was sad.
Please do continue <3 I look forward immensely to updates! D=!!
And then I hit the end!
And then I was sad.
Please do continue <3 I look forward immensely to updates! D=!!
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December 26, 2005 at 12:00 AM
AAAHHHH!! You GOTTA update, I stayed up till 5 am in the morning to finish reading this! And that's a big compliment considering I LOVE my sleep. It was absolutley WONDERFUL how you captured the essence of Willy, like I'm REALLY watching the movie, his dialoge is exactly what he'd be saying! And my goodness, the way you just leave me hanging in the love scenes, it's torture! But angst does better a story, and you've mastered that! I even love how you managed to tint the story so well with humour, especially how Georgina said that it was a wonder he could keep her hands off him, I roared with laughter at that! But there's a problem, I have a very short memory spand and if you don't update soon I'll forget to read the next chapter, or even what the story is about! So HURRY! We are depending on you! I am officially a fan of yours, I love your writing in every way, and I wouldn't change a thing! ^_^